Comments on: When Former Lover Becomes Accuser: Civil Protection Orders in D.C. http://koehlerlaw.net/2010/05/when-former-lovers-become-accusers-civil-protection-orders-in-d-c/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=when-former-lovers-become-accusers-civil-protection-orders-in-d-c Criminal and DUI Defense in Washington, D.C. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:38:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: jamison http://koehlerlaw.net/2010/05/when-former-lovers-become-accusers-civil-protection-orders-in-d-c/comment-page-1/#comment-1707 jamison Thu, 20 May 2010 17:17:30 +0000 http://koehlerlaw.net/?p=2533#comment-1707 It's an interesting argument. Unfortunately, it is not one that would work with a judge. If the guy is going to continue to contact the woman against her expressed wishes, the judge would much rather issue the CPO and subject the guy to criminal contempt charges. It would be embarrassing for the judge to deny the CPO only to have the guy go out the next week and assault the woman. It’s an interesting argument. Unfortunately, it is not one that would work with a judge. If the guy is going to continue to contact the woman against her expressed wishes, the judge would much rather issue the CPO and subject the guy to criminal contempt charges. It would be embarrassing for the judge to deny the CPO only to have the guy go out the next week and assault the woman.

]]> By: JW http://koehlerlaw.net/2010/05/when-former-lovers-become-accusers-civil-protection-orders-in-d-c/comment-page-1/#comment-1705 JW Thu, 20 May 2010 12:35:27 +0000 http://koehlerlaw.net/?p=2533#comment-1705 I talked about this post last night with my girlfriend. She has an old friend from high school who texts her a few times a week with "hey." Nothing more, it's always the same. She doesn't reply, but he keeps it up. She told me she worries about his mental health. He's very overweight, awkward, etc. as well. I imagine if someone was given a temporary restraining order and violated it, he very obviously "doesn't get it." I don't know much about CPOs, but couldn't they defer to some sort of mental-health evaluation? Otherwise, it seems like if he didn't get it the first time, isn't a CPO setting him up to fail? I talked about this post last night with my girlfriend. She has an old friend from high school who texts her a few times a week with “hey.” Nothing more, it’s always the same. She doesn’t reply, but he keeps it up.
She told me she worries about his mental health. He’s very overweight, awkward, etc. as well.
I imagine if someone was given a temporary restraining order and violated it, he very obviously “doesn’t get it.” I don’t know much about CPOs, but couldn’t they defer to some sort of mental-health evaluation?
Otherwise, it seems like if he didn’t get it the first time, isn’t a CPO setting him up to fail?

]]> By: jamison http://koehlerlaw.net/2010/05/when-former-lovers-become-accusers-civil-protection-orders-in-d-c/comment-page-1/#comment-1695 jamison Wed, 19 May 2010 20:44:16 +0000 http://koehlerlaw.net/?p=2533#comment-1695 My three favorite (and most loyal) commenters all on one post: JW, Mirriam, and then George. There was a case in front of mine yesterday in which Twitter was the major issue. Fortunately, having recently joined Twitter, I could understand what the witnesses were talking about. Neither the judge nor either of the two attorneys seemed to have a clue. They kept confusing "befriending" from Facebook with "following" on Twitter. And they didn't know if a message in the singular was "twit" or "tweet." The issue was whether or not asking someone to follow you on Twitter was in violation of a Civil Protection Order. It was. But the government could not prove that the Twitter request was done prior to the CPO being issued. My three favorite (and most loyal) commenters all on one post: JW, Mirriam, and then George.

There was a case in front of mine yesterday in which Twitter was the major issue. Fortunately, having recently joined Twitter, I could understand what the witnesses were talking about. Neither the judge nor either of the two attorneys seemed to have a clue. They kept confusing “befriending” from Facebook with “following” on Twitter. And they didn’t know if a message in the singular was “twit” or “tweet.”

The issue was whether or not asking someone to follow you on Twitter was in violation of a Civil Protection Order. It was. But the government could not prove that the Twitter request was done prior to the CPO being issued.

]]> By: George http://koehlerlaw.net/2010/05/when-former-lovers-become-accusers-civil-protection-orders-in-d-c/comment-page-1/#comment-1694 George Wed, 19 May 2010 20:30:37 +0000 http://koehlerlaw.net/?p=2533#comment-1694 Interesting post, Jamison, especially with regard to texting and its ramifications. I believe our former mayor of Detroit would be interested ... Interesting post, Jamison, especially with regard to texting and its ramifications. I believe our former mayor of Detroit would be interested …

]]> By: mirriam http://koehlerlaw.net/2010/05/when-former-lovers-become-accusers-civil-protection-orders-in-d-c/comment-page-1/#comment-1693 mirriam Wed, 19 May 2010 17:58:28 +0000 http://koehlerlaw.net/?p=2533#comment-1693 So really, it wasn't how it was said, but when. So really, it wasn’t how it was said, but when.

]]> By: mirriam http://koehlerlaw.net/2010/05/when-former-lovers-become-accusers-civil-protection-orders-in-d-c/comment-page-1/#comment-1692 mirriam Wed, 19 May 2010 17:57:54 +0000 http://koehlerlaw.net/?p=2533#comment-1692 I too feel for him. But it is the context, isn't it? I also know what its like, as a woman, to be on the other side of all of that. And, it doesn't feel good. I too feel for him. But it is the context, isn’t it? I also know what its like, as a woman, to be on the other side of all of that. And, it doesn’t feel good.

]]> By: JW http://koehlerlaw.net/2010/05/when-former-lovers-become-accusers-civil-protection-orders-in-d-c/comment-page-1/#comment-1690 JW Wed, 19 May 2010 14:53:05 +0000 http://koehlerlaw.net/?p=2533#comment-1690 Wow, excellent post. You can't help but feel sorry for your client ... and who can't identify with unrequited love? I like this post. Wow, excellent post. You can’t help but feel sorry for your client … and who can’t identify with unrequited love? I like this post.

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